[W&B] Dallmeyer 3x3 format camera.

[Milan Zahorcak]

Bonjour all,
 
Odd, I never received Eric's post, but I did receive Bernard's reply.
 
Dan, are we PO'd with me again?
 
But in response to Eric's post, I suspect that the tiny cameras and small
format plates were in response to the growing popularity of celluloid film,
especially in roll-film formats.  I think you'll find that most of the
"smaller than 1/4-plate" cameras came on the market in the late 1880s and
early 1890s just as the Kodak and other small roll-film cameras were
introduced.
 
The Anthony Lilliput (2-1/2" x 2-1/2") plate camera is roughly the same size
as the original Kodak film camera, but in just a few years, it is obvious
that film will eventually replace plates.
 
Perhaps the makers misread the market interest in roll film cameras -
thinking that it was the small size of the camera, as opposed to the
convenience of film, that made these small formats popular.
 
Or perhaps, for many makers, the existing roll-film and roll-holder patents
precluded their introduction of directly competing roll-film cameras until
they could work around the legal issues.
 
Whatever the reason, there were a surprising number of small plate cameras .
. . but of course, Wayne now owns all of them.
 
The link is to an 1891 Carbutt's plate advertisement.
 
http://www.pacificrimcamera.com/milanpub/Misc%20pics/Carbutts-plates.jpg
 
The fact that 3x3 doesn't appear on the rather extensive list makes me
wonder if it was earlier and obsolete, or later and newer.
 
Regardless, as we all know, silver-based film processes will never be
replaced . . . it is the ultimate technology and cannot be improved upon.
 
mz
 
 
 
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: woodandbrass-bounces at kjsl.com [mailto:woodandbrass-bounces at kjsl.com]
On Behalf Of Bernard Plazonnet
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2007 2:05 AM
To: Collectors of 19th Century Cameras &Photographica
Subject: Re: [W&B] Dallmeyer 3x3 format camera.


Bonjour Eric,
 
If at any time you shoot a picture of this camera,  I would really enjoy to
see it.
 
All my best. 
Bernard.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Eric Evans <mailto:ericevans2 at blueyonder.co.uk>  
To: Collectors of 19th Century Cameras  <mailto:woodandbrass at kjsl.com> &
Photographica 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2007 10:53 AM
Subject: [W&B] Dallmeyer 3x3 format camera.

Hello W&Bers,
I have just collected an early dry plate tailboard camera by J H Dallmeyer.
I at first thought it was a quarter plate format, but looking at the three
DDSs that came with it, I found they were made for, and still contained,
plates of 3x3 inch format. I have never encountered this format previously.
Is it very unusual? 
    Plates were obviously obtainable, or there would be none in the slides.
Were they perhaps specifically intended for lantern slides? The square
format obviates the need for a rotatable back, so there isn't one. The front
has limited rise only, and the camera's appearance (dovetails smaller than
the eye can see, red square bellows) suggests a date earlier than its lens
number, 30298, (1880), although the lens appears to be original equipment.
    Any comments would be appreciated.
Thanks, Eric.

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