B: RE: any traffic please advise

[lance fisher]

Peter, look carefully at the last seven words.  It doesn't say "should 
not be used as a position report under any condition".

 From AIM 4-1-9 g 1: "Pilots stating, /"Traffic in the area, please 
advise"/ is is not a recognized Self-Announce Position and/or Intention 
phrase and _*/should not be used under any condition/*_."

Also note that this is the last sentence of the paragraph discussing 
Pilot self announcement procedures at/around uncontrolled airports.

-lance (sorry I couldn't resist one more shot)

Peter Tracy wrote:

> Good morning all-
>
> I am convinced that the AIM language does not prohibit
> "Any traffic, please advise." It simply says that "Any traffic,
> please" advise does not constitute a position report--which
> it clearly does not. But to use the phrase after reporting position
> does not appear to me to be contra to the AIM. Whether
> or not to use such a phrase is apparently more controversial
> than I had ever thought it was! ;-}
>
> Pete Tracy
> Bishop, California
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Olson" <laryso at gmail.com>
> To: <beech-owners at beechcraft.org>
> Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2009 6:23 AM
> Subject: Re: B: RE: any traffic please advise
>
>
>> Ralph,
>>
>> Somewhere there's a FAA advisory against using it. So I just ask "is  
>> there anyone out there?"
>>
>> It really doesn't bother me, and there's an argument that some 
>> pilots  won't respond unless the transmission is directed to them.
>>
>> Larry Olson
>> St. Pete BE58
>>
>>
>>
>> On May 1, 2009, at 12:41 AM, Ralph Requa wrote:
>>
>>> I hate that radio transmission too. It's amateurish; unprofessional.
>>>
>>> It implies to me that I'm thought too stupid to respond to conflicting
>>> traffic advisories.
>>>
>>> Where is that procedure specified? I don't think that you will find  
>>> it in
>>> any FAA document.
>>>
>>> Cheers, Ralph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: beech-owners-bounces at beechcraft.org
>>> [mailto:beech-owners-bounces at beechcraft.org] On Behalf Of Dave Van  
>>> Horn
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 9:22 PM
>>> To: beech-owners at beechcraft.org
>>> Subject: B: any traffic please advise
>>>
>>>> that idiot statement of  "any traffic please advise".
>>>
>>>
>>> Exactly why is that so bad?
>>>
>>> Dave VH
>>> Seattle
>>>
>>>
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